Question:
Buying a new gaming pc guidance?
Cloud
2013-08-12 16:30:51 UTC
Hi there, i would like to have a PC that is more superior than the next gen consoles, now i can get 16gigs ddr3 ram, 79xx series amd, 3.5ghz quadcore intel i7 cpu with my budget but that only meets the next gen consoles on the same ground, how much longer would i have to wait for better hardware to be released and begin geting cheaper, 1st quarter of 2014? 2nd? also if i had 1000 pounds to seal the deal within 5 months any good websites to decent prebuilds with the exeption of no windows 7, or better hardware guidance?

I play fast paced high quality shooters, rpg's, you named it, I wont have watercooling so overclocking is out of the question so minimal stress but i want it to be at its limits nonetheless.

Thanks in advance folks xoxo
Ross.
Five answers:
Brandon
2013-08-12 17:27:03 UTC
That's a really good build, but it's pretty expensive. That rig will absolutely blow all consoles out of the water, but it's probably twice the cost and you really don't need that much power unless you really want a high end rig. Also PC's last a LOT longer than consoles do, so you won't need to upgrade every yearly quarter but more like 2 years if you want to catch up the latest games. Here's my build.



i7 3770 (Will last a long time for gaming)

GIGABYTE HD 7870 2GB GHz Edition (Planning to replace or run in Crossfire)

Asus P8Z77-V PRO

Corsair Vengance 8GB

Antec Kuhler 620

Crappy 850watt PSU

128GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD

2x WD Caviar 500GB 7200RPM



My mid-end build handles ALL the latest games at highest settings at 1080p, which is a bit slower than what you wanted but still smoke the next-gen consoles. If you're planning to build a PC keep in mind that they cost money and you need to take care of them. They're almost like pets. You need have a good power supply, good cooling and airflow, and high quality parts. Try looking for used parts on Craigslist for eBay where you can find deals to suit your budget.



I recommend you NOT to buy Alienwares or any other custon computer builder, gaming laptops, or any place where they sell pre-built gaming computers. Sure they're convenient, but they are a major waste of money. Try building yourself. It's very easy. Also 16GB RAM is a bit much for gaming. You really don't need 16GB of RAM, it's quite a lot even for high end gaming, especially if you have an i7 with big cache. 8GB is the sweet spot. Look up other websites like Toms Hardware for more help. Good Luck!
?
2013-08-12 16:49:43 UTC
First off, you are really confused on how powerful these next gen consoles are. I've done my research and know a few things, and I've think these next gen consoles measure up to a mid range PC at best. They are a great value however, in fact I pre-ordered a PS4 myself. I do however own a gaming PC also. The processor in these next gen consoles are a joke to be honest. Cores don't matter as much as raw power. A perfect example of this is AMD's 8 core FX processor losing to intel's i5 which only has 4 cores. This is because intel packed the i5 with simply more powerful cores vs AMD's more but less powerful cores. More doesn't always mean better is what I'm trying to get across. An i7 could easily beat the consoles CPU, even an i5 could do that. The graphics card the ps4 at least is packing is able to output roughly 1.8 teraphlops (not sure how to spell it sorry) of power. A AMD 7850 outputs around the same level of power. So anything above a 7850 would be more powerful than the PS4 (The xbox one only has 1.2 teraphlops of power around a 7770's range) So you could easily build a computer that would own these consoles. Even a 7870 would be a nice step up from a PS4. If you where to purchase a computer containing an i5 or i7 processor (no matter the model) and a 7870 or above, you would easily out power these next gen consoles.



P.S. I'm not hatting on consoles, I mean I even pre-ordered a PS4. I'm just saying that computers will easily out power these things forever, no argument



I also forgot to talk about the RAM in these things. This is where the consoles have an edge. Both the Xbox and PS4 have joint RAM in there systems. This means that they combine their VRAM (video card RAM) and their system RAM. This offers fantastic speeds with less latency since they are grabbing memory from the same pool vs separate pools which you find in computers. I would't worry too much about this though, RAM doesn't have a huge effect on gaming, at least not at 1080p. Once 4k becomes more prominent, more VRAM will be more beneficial (anywhere upwards 2gb will only benefit you). I personally have a graphics card with 2gb of VRAM (which I think is plenty at 1080p) and 16gb of system RAM (which I actually think is a little overkill).
Blabla
2013-08-12 17:11:49 UTC
By the way you asked its like Im reading a question by a 12 year old, who's just starting to get into PC. No judgement here, but that thought of mine gets a solid foundation by the fact you wrote poorly too.

My advice, do some research. Why the hell would you need 16GB of RAM for gaming? Even 4GB is enough! Still 8GB is better. GDDR5 that is.

Intel i7 you say? Well there are so many i7 on the market right now. i7-xxxx and i7-xxxxK, major diff is that the K is overclock ready. As I said, better do research.

Graphics card? nVidia is better, but I like AMD more. Looks like you did some research on Graphics! Good, but make sure to get a great CPU too or else it will bottleneck the graphics card.



Thats not all...



What about the motherboard?! Research..

PSU?! Research.. tip: find one thats notable for its good performance and will last long(Cooler Master)..

The case?! Research.. tip: find w the best airflow and w dust filters ready..

Monitor?! Research.. An intel i5 w HD7770 on a 19" w a 1366x768 display can get Battlefield 3 playing max out w 60FPS, but on a bigger display that utilizes 1080p is something different..

HDD or SSD?! Research.. tip: get both of it.. Windows loads below than 10 seconds on SSD.



Seriously, research.



Even so, why are you avoiding the next gen consoles? Fact is that both systems are great hardware consoles, just PS4 gets the slight advantage thanks to its implementation of the 8GB GDDR5 RAM. Still it all depends on the game devs implementing all hardware specs of the console at its best. BUT, PC will always win no matter what. No denying PC hardware, given the money you pour into it, will always become greater.
?
2016-12-04 00:11:33 UTC
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Henry
2013-08-12 16:45:56 UTC
By the sound of it, those specs would be able to kick a next gen gaming console's butt. Alienware are good, but many people say they are overpriced. Which yes, they are, and you can build one that is better and cheaper. Also the specs you have now will be able to kick a next gen console's butt.


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