seems like most people I knew in the 80s where more likely to have an apple rather than a pc.
pc became more widely excepted in the 90s it seems
I had an apple IIe when I was a young child (6 years old, 1982)
it did absolutly nothing except have a blank screen with a blinking curse
You had to have an outside disk with some program written in basic.
the programs where not complicated at all.
it had no hard drive. any info you wanted to save must have been safed onto a floppy.
mostly good as a calculator, a word processor, a small database builder, an 8 bit coloring program, a way to learn programming, and a "gaming system"
I lived in saudi arabia as a child and had no access to software as most of the world did.
If I really wanted my computer to do anything I had to write my own qbasic program. (i learned alot)
I even wrote my own games.
they even had magazines that had pages of code in it that you could transcribe to make your own program.
kinda lame, kinda cool.
Ultima (III i think) from Origin was I guess the number 1 performing game for the time and its release ushered in a standardized PC gaming scene. before ultima PC games we're written by very small groups (mostly as a hobbie) and even released in zip lock bags with a pencil sketching on a piece of paper inside and hung on the walls of computer parts stores and sold for a buck or two
Ultima was the first to be sold in a box with quality pictures printed on it, and even a nicely printed cloth map and metal "ankh" trinket
I think that turtle he's refering to was part of a really simple plotting program called logo.
http://www.mathsnet.net/logo/turtlelogo/index.html
apples didn't have mouse control until the apple 2Gs came out...(mouse control originated with xerox machines) then it moved to mac (intosh) and then ol Bill gates stole it.
here is an apple IIe emulator. Its a program that runs in windows, but looks and acts like and apple IIe
http://applewin.berlios.de/
you'll need to find programs to run in it unless you can program in qbasic
game disk images
http://classicgaming.gamespy.com/View.php?view=appleiiroms.List&game=6
all kinds of progs I think
http://www.apple2.org.za/mirrors/apple2.archive.umich.edu/apple2/
later (around 1986) the amiga came out on the market and kicked apple's @ss
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga
but PCs and MSDOS where already growing in popularity and the other where left in the dust right around 1985
by 88 when MSdos started using a "shell" = a gui idea stolen from apple IIgs
it was over for the rest.