Question:
Which computer components to take?
User
2017-12-10 13:14:22 UTC
Hi guys I would like to make a PC from 0 for the production of music mainly but I would also play so make a pc from gaiming / music studio I would spend on 2,000,2,500 (excluding mouse screen speakers etc etc.) which components I should buy to have a computer on that price and how would this come with this price base?
I forgot I have recommended these features but I would like something much betterCPU - Ryzen 5 1600
MoBo - MSI B350M PRO-VDH
RAM - Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2x8 GB) DDR4-2666
SSD - Intel 600p Series 256 GB M.2-2280
HDD - Seagate Barracuda 2 TB ST2000DM006
GPU - Gigabyte GT 1030 2 GB Silent
S. audio - Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy Rx
DVD/CD Writer - LG GH24NSD1
Case - be quiet! Silent Base 600
PSU - SeaSonic PRIME Titanium 600 W
Eight answers:
anonymous
2017-12-11 14:52:40 UTC
If you need to use your PC as a professional tool, you're going at this backwards.



1: decide which software (DAW - digital audio workstation) you want to use

2: decide which audio hardware you want to use (controllers, ADC/DAC)

3: from those two, check which limits this puts on your operating system and I/O connections

4: if this does not yet sufficiently limit your choice of computer, check the requirements for the DAW - if a Windows system still is an option, does this run better with lots of threads (AMD Threadripper), or do you need a high single thread performance (Intel i7)



Then set up your computer so that it meets at least the recommended settings for your DAW. With anything involving processing effectively analogue signals, you never can have have

- too little CPU power

- too little RAM

- too little HDD speed

- too little HDD space

so stuffing 32 GB of RAM and three SSDs into such a system may not be overkill (one 500 GB SSD for OS and software, 2 x 1 TB SSD for data)



Finally, if you also want to game on that rig, a GTX1050ti currently hits the sweet spot of price/performance ratio. However, if you want to play in 4k, you'd better go straight for a GTX1080 - but I'd still be somewhat dubious about plugging a GPU into a professional audio system.
Alexius
2017-12-11 01:40:53 UTC
For your requirements I would suggest this build. It contains no soundcard because you can use the built-in sound and make your experiences with it. If it shouldn't meet your requirements you can add a dedicated soundcard at any time later.



All proposed parts are available in Italy. The entire build so far cost about €1615

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/HfmYVY
Konakona
2017-12-10 20:49:39 UTC
You have a $2000-2500 budget for just the computer tower itself and you're thinking of going with an r5 1600?





Either go with the R7 1700/1800x or the core i7-8700k. Then get a decent motherboard (one with optical out is best for your needs), 16-24GB of ddr4 3200mhz ram, and a gtx 1080 Ti.



Storage capacity is up to you, but with your budget, you can afford to have 1-5TB of pure ssd storage. You may still want a mechanical storage drive, but I would definitely get a 1TB+ of ssd storage. (you want to be loading and temp saving your current audio tracks on fast storage for real-time editing)



The case doesn't matter too much. Most any case between $50-80 is good enough. I would suggest buying a 650-750W psu, 80+ gold is good enough. Seasonic make good psus.



dvd drives aren't that useful anymore, but get one if you really need/want it.



And lastly, why are you buying a sound card? If you're doing professional production, there's absolutely no way you're going to be using a ******* sound card for really anything other than an output for optical out for an external DAC/AMP. The only reason to get any kind of audio card would be for midi inputs or something. But you can buy external USB midi controllers too (and most all midi boards are usb now anyway), so honestly, you should just not be buying any kind of sound card. Buy devices that are external and connect via USB or optical.
m8xpayne
2017-12-10 17:24:02 UTC
The only reason to go for a Mac for music production is because you insist on using the Logic Pro program. Otherwise it's even and only a Windows or MACos fanboy will tell you it's different.



$2000 to 2500? That depends on which country were talking about. In the US the build you listed is substantially less than $2000.



A microATX (aka mATX) motherboard will work anywhere an ATX motherboard would work. The width dimensions and the location of the I/O ports are the same. The only difference between mATX and ATX is height. mATX is usually 9.6" tall and ATX is usually 12" tall. The specs for the be Quiet 600 list compatibility for miniITX, mATX, and ATX sized motherboards.



The Intel 600p isn't a bad drive and it's very reliable. However, the Samsung 960 evo is much faster, and it's very reliable as well. If the evo is the same price or a little bit more then it's a far better pick. The 600p pulls in Sequential read speeds of around 1300-1600MB/s, but the 960 evo pulls in Sequential read speeds of 2600-3000MB/s. Also, the Access times of the 960 evo are far better than the 600p.



If you're recording audio then I assume that you're bringing your own DAC.



The GT 1030 is an awful pick for gaming and you will be disappointed with it, unless the games you play are older games from 2011. The performance for the dollar it offers won't come close to matching a GTX 1050. The GT 1030 is capable of 720p gaming, but there are some, but not all, newer games it can run at 1080p low settings.



AT least the GTX 1050 will run games at 1080p at medium to low settings, and there are some games it can run at 1080p high settings. The GTX 1050ti ups the ante and it will give you somewhat better visuals, because it's 20% to 30% faster. If you want to play games at high to ultra settings then you would have to spend more on a 6gb GTX 1060, but at least the 6gb GTX 1060 is twice as fast as the GTX 1050ti. A 3gb GTX 1060 that's below $200usd is not a bad value, aside from being starved for VRAM. The 3gb GTX 1060 uses a cut down GPU that's 11% slower than the 6gb version.



At the minimum, look at the GTX 1050 but if you can afford a GTX 1060 then get that.



The Ryzen 5 1600 is a good all around option and it's probably one of the most well rounded processors out there. With DAW it's a good measure to Invest as much into the CPU as possible and the Ryzen 7 1700 would actually be a better pick for you.



You can make cuts with the power supply. A good 80plus bronze 550w unit is more than capable of running your setup. The grey label Corsair CX550 is fine for your setup. With that Seasonic, the Titanium rating and fanless design is overkill for the amount of wattage it provides. It would be like buying a 20" 4k monitor. The screen is so small that you wouldn't really see the benefits of 4k. The point is a 20" to 24" 4k monitor is a bad value and so is the Seasonic Prime 600w. That Seasonic Prime is for people who want a dead Silent PC and they're willing to pay for Silence. You would be better off looking at something with a fan that spins at a low RPM.



If you insist on quality then look at the EVGA 650w P2. Even the EVGA G2 series provides more than enough quality. You would be much, much better off saving money with the EVGA 650w G2 and then going with a Ryzen 7 CPU.
Marduk
2017-12-10 14:10:34 UTC
Your MOBO is MicroATX and the CASE is ATX, that may not work. I would look at this MSI B350 GAMING PLUS AM4 AMD B350 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard.



Now this MOBO has an M.2 slot which I highly recommend. I just built one and WHOA! Wicked fast bootups. I would get this one. SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2 250GB NVMe PCI-Express 3.0 x4 Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V6E250BW. Oh, I see you have one listed. Samsung is the best and NewEgg has it for 127 which isn't bad. I would go for the Samsung.



You install the SSD M.2 and no other drives and install your OS(Operating System) on it. You can also put some of your apps on it to speed them up. Then you install your HDD and put your PageFile on it and your libraries. Google or go to You Tube to find out how to do it. I really don't remember.



Another thing, go to you tube to find how to build. Ryzen is different than Intel on installations. Get nitrile gloves and a anti static wrist strap, static kills components. You can get the gloves at hardware stores.



Installing CPU, RAM and GPU takes some grunt work. You will swear you are breaking them but they need a real tight fit due to the frequencies involved. I believe Ryzen has pins, so be sure to line it up real well before installing.



You need a CPU cooler and thermal paste very important. Make sure you get the Ryzen with a cooler and not just the Ryzen alone. If you are not overclocking, the stock cooler will do fine. Thermal paste conducts heat better between CPU and Cooler.



The Ryzen 5 will do really well for what you want.



I can't think of anything more. I've been building 20 years and it is fun. Well, it is fun but scary too. You've dumped a ton of money into the thing and then you turn it on and PRAY! I've had 2 failures out of over a dozen builds. One was my fault, I got the wrong MOBO and the other would just crash every now and then. Take your time, make sure everything is seated well. If you have a problem, reseat the GPU and RAM. Read the MOBO manual, 3 times before starting. Oh, and don't forget to install the MOBO drivers after you've install the OS. That is important.
anonymous
2017-12-10 13:19:48 UTC
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2017-12-10 13:16:35 UTC
Serious music/video professionals use Macs, not PC/Windows crap. Get the best one you can afford. The top of the line iMacs are awesome. 
anonymous
2017-12-10 13:15:02 UTC
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